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In this episode, we welcome back Chuck Marohn, Founder and President of Strong Towns, to talk about some of the themes from his brand-new book Strong Towns: A Bottom-Up Revolution to Rebuild American Prosperity.

Here's a sampling of what Chuck and Verdunity's Kevin Shepherd talk about in this show:

• What Chuck says when people ask him “okay, well what specifically should we do?”

• What the role of the professional class is in generating cities that can’t pay for their growth

• What it means for cities to do a comprehensive plan or a zoning code in a way that is consistent with Strong Towns thinking (and how Chuck’s thinking is still evolving on that issue)

• The importance of feedback loops and what those should look like for city staff

• How Chuck responds to the criticism that sometimes the incremental approach doesn’t work when you’re trying to build large-scale systems

Don't forget to pick up a copy of Chuck's book, and also make sure to check out all three of their fantastic podcast streams: The Strong Towns Podcast, Upzoned, and It's the Little Things.

Want to hear our first interview with Chuck? Click here (or find Episode 10 in your podcast app of choice).

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